Giants Still on Steroids 10 Years Later…
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GUILLEN INCIDENT SHOWS
STEROIDS JUST PART OF
‘WINNING’ FOR SF GIANTS
Thanks, New York Times and Carl Steward of the Bay Area News Group for reporting on the ‘politically incorrect’ ( at least in San Francisco) story of Giants’ JoseGuillen and steroid use. Again, Giants management turned a blind eye to the known reports of his past steroid use in 2002 and 2005 , including being part of the Mitchell Report. I guess it’s just a part of the Giants ‘Win At Any Cost’ philosophy. Especially after its history of having the most ‘roided players (per the Mitchell report) and the Kingpin himself, Barry Bonds – who threw out the first pitch in the World Series opener (and remains a hero among Giants fans . (Would it not be unbelievable if he became hitting coach? Maybe not so unbelievable for the Giants.) Game of Shadows: Barry Bonds, BALCO, and the Steroids Scandal that Rocked Professional Sports The BIG thing here is that , once again, three years after steroids were perportedly out of the game, they’re back and could well be influencing results. Guillen had a number of key games in September with the Giants, incluiing a couple game-winning hits. This alone could have made the difference between the Giants getting into the playoffs and World Series, at the expense of the Padres, who were only out by two games. For GM Sabean to get angry when a reporter brought up the subject of Guillen and steroids and for Giants president Baer to do his standard ‘ it’s baseball’s issue’ after well knowing of Guillen’s past steroid history, before acquiring him in August one just has to shake his or her head. San Francisco is one of the most tolerant and progressive cities but I don’t see the Giants as progressive. They’re continuing to hurt baseball 10 years later – and if they win the whole enchilada it will be a travesty. . Hello Bud Selig. Where are you? You’re telling us you’re happy with the 25% dip on viewership of this year’s world series. Another interesting thing, during this renwed talk of steroids on the Giants, one of Bond’s Merry Men from the mid 2000s , visiting ATT over the weekend to watch the Giants, tells u that , yes, he was using steroids then. But we’re hardly surprised.
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players may still be using roids in 2010. I really was about to give some Giants some credit for winning this thing NATURALLY, but now , with this report, it brings back those old suspicions again. Not to cast aspersions but you look at certain members of the Giants motley crew doing things they’ve never done before, like Jose Uribe hitting more homers (26) than he’s ever hit – at age 32 – and in San Francisco’s spacious , cold ballpark. Being friendly with Guillen. You gotta wonder. Or , turn a blind eye, like Giants ‘Baer, Sabean and company More at http://BayAreaCoupons.info and http://YellowPagesCoupons.infoNEXT: Yet another big name steroid user on Giants?
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Sure, pitching may be key but you gotta have hitting.Yankees’ Derek Jeter may have hit on at least part of it:
A team can get hot at the right time. In a short series a team can get lucky and beat a better team.
…or words to that effect Certainly, San Francisco is a perfect example.A .500 team through the All Star break, they came on the second half, with a great September.They seemed to have just enough to sqeak by, game after game… thus the ‘ torture ‘ moniker given them.San Diego had asimilar run earlier in the year, only to finally implode near the end.
In the playoffs, the SF guys were recipients of twice as many errors by Atlanta and Philadelphia than San Francisco and a lot of seeing-eye hits.Give secret weapon, Manager Bruce Bochy more credit than any player for getting the most of this motley crew. He puts everything into each game, playing for today, not looking ahead so much. He knows just how far his starters can go – and not often very far, knowing who and when to bring in relief, when to get a player in the game or out of there. So what if he and the front office keep getting rid of players who don’t work, they’ve got a few new ones to stick this year. Where other managers will sit and wait, Bochy is always maneuvering. He has to .
Here’s a team that hasn’t seen a regular lineup all season and with players coming and going with the wind. Yet, all the pieces have come together for the Gigantes so far this year. It happens. But , don’t expect it to continue next year. Other teams will finally wake up and realize who they’re playing – a mediocre team with some very good pitching. But they’ve been winning on fumes…very little gas left in the tank ofpatchwork and luck.
As Serius radio’s Chris Russo says, don’t be surprised to see the Giants
win the Series on a blooper on the right field chalk.It’s been that kind of year…
not one of the better ones for baseball. Coming out of the steroids era, power production was half of previous years. Mutli-million dollar players were pathetic
shells of their former selves…
None of the big guys acted like they wanted to win it in the end.The Yankees, Philadelphia, Minnesota.Then there are two, Texas and San Francisco, neither team expected to go anywhere this year. Expect one of the lowest-viewed Series, with the added effect from the National Vote November 2.
I live in the San Francisco Bay Area but let’s tell it like it is…In recent years, the Giants management has tried to win at any cost, especially now. Baer and Company are the greatest at making excuses when they’re not winning. As even the most ardent Giants fans will admit, they have made some of the worst trades and signings in baseball history (think Zeto, Rowand, Rentaria most recently). And virtually giving away a Bengie Molina , who was largely responsible for not only the pitching staff success but has been a key contributer throughout the entire season; no surprise that Molina hasn’t gotten over the unceremonious release – and is at least getting some payment , having a great post season with the Rangers.
And now, we hear from insiders that Jose Guillen was left off the team for the post season, not due to a stiff neck but steroid allegations; the league, reportedly, asked the Giants not to have him play, per Rob Neyer in Bleacher Report 10-28-10. It may be politically incorrect to say, but don’t be surprised to find our later that the oldl Bonds’ Giants of Steroids are still lurking, what with guys like Jose Uribe hitting his most ever homeruns at age 32 in a large, cold San Francisco ballpark and other old guys are also suddenly coming to life. Maybe not so surprising, in retrospect.
And , who else should suddenly show up at the park for the series but BB himself, carrying the charge to finish off what he couldn’t quite accomplish against the Angels in 2002,In trying to bring the Giants its first World Series championship in 56 years – and even pining to be the San Francisco Giants hitting coach, just months before his perjury trial begins.
Call it ‘win at any cost.’ And with a
only-in- San Francisco fan base
that looked the other way for 7 years with Bonds, they’re happy to do it again. The Giants are no World Series team. It’s been a weak year in baseball, with no standout teams and the Giants are backing into the World Series – at any cost. They probably know they may never get a change again.
The San Frnacisco Giants haven’t won a World Series since 1954 and may be a little embarrassed, but instead of showing some humility like the Chicago Cubs people, they only show cockiness. When Barry Bonds, in all his roided-out ‘brilliance’, kept the turnstyles rolling, management was right there to defend him while the rest of the country looked at them as laughing stock.
This year, GM Sabean has taken his ‘rare window of opportunity’ philosophy to the extreme, bringing in cast-offs one after the other. If you do it enough times one will stick and Burl and Ross HAVE made some contributions – afterall, they were better than what was there, and with the pitching staff they have they can get by with mediocrity . (But they are not young, and don’t be surprised to see them gone next year.) Other than Buster Posey and Bumgartner, the San Francisco Giants have virtually ignored their farm system, bringing in veteran player after player, only to throw them under the bus.
Perhaps Padres’ Mat Latos and one or two of the Philles got it right… Instead of giving players a chance , a wrong move or two and they’re gone. Poor Zeto, who has had his best year in years, is persona non grata now, left off the playoffs roster. Most of the players who began the year with the Giants are gone, or at least banished to the bench. Even now, if someone makes an error or two, expect a different lineup the next day.
Apparently, the pressure cooker is on at San Frnacisco Giants
headquarters. Sabean and Bochy and Baer have been around one team longer than all current counterparts – and without winning the big one. I will say that manager Bochy, whether under the gun or not, has come a long way as manager, truly managing, the seeming nice guy of the bunch , and mahybe should be manager of the year. But, look at the competition. Whether other managers or teams- – there’s not a truly top caliber one with both pitching and hitting in all the big leagues, except the Yankees, and they haven’t been doing all that well in the playoffs.
As for luck, the San Francisco Giants seem to have it going for them , getting that ‘torture’ run courtesy of either the other team mistakes (See Atlanta) or umpires (a would-be inning-ending right-down-the plate third strike was called a ball by Umpire Cousins, resulting in two more runs, just enough to win the first playoff game against the Phils most recently.
For the San Francisco Giants its Win Now At All Costs (we don’t say that, they do). The money’s been spen now- with one of the highest payrol. The World Series has eluded them for longer than just about any team. So, step on toes. Go boldly as it WILL probably be back to the Old Inept Giants next year. So, Giant fans, enjoy while you can. I’ll take the Padres or even the A’s ( despite having the worst manager in baseball) and their homegrown, old school philosophies.
If the Giants make it to the WS – with a current .194 average for the playoffs – it will be a travesty for baseball and the other teams. It’s pathetic how there’s not a single World Class team going – only Texas is batting over .200 among the playoff finalists and Texas is no world beater, either. Whether or not the Giants do back in to the series it’s be a dark day in this post-steroid era which has seen hitting numbers drop below the Mendoza line and a team composed basically of low-hitting cast-offs and only four very good pitchers and one good manager slide through to possibly win it all.
RANGERS MOLINA COULD BE TEXAS’ SECRET WEAPON IN SERIES
He still hasn’t forgotten being unceremoniously dumped by the Giants, mid-season. All the more reason Bengie Molina may be happy to give inside Giants trade secrets to his new Texas teammates. Wouldn’t that be something to see one of the guys the Giants threw under the bus come back to haunt them after backing into the Series on sealing wax and fumes.
Afterall, Molina wasmost instrumental in the growth of the Giants young pitching staff. He knowstheir inner-most quirks , both physical and mental. He also knows the Giangnts hitters well, info he will surely share with the Rangers. The Giants made a big deal picking up Cody Ross mainly to prevent the San Diego Padres from getti him off waivers.The Giants always make an effort to trade players to the American League where they ‘re less likely to be hurt by them and add to the list of players traded away that have haunted them over the years. This one could backfire.The Giants probably never REALLY thought they could make it to the Series with this team.
Who knows, maybe Molina will get together with Barry Zeto, Aaron Rowand, Rentaria and other ‘ under the bus’ Giants and ex -giants to write a‘tell all’ book . But that’s the Giants long-time, under-performing front office… always making excuses, whether defending Barry Bonds or trying to explain why they haven’t won a World Series since 1954.
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